Oprah Winfrey

What's interesting is, though, that you could see from the very beginning and all of those of you who are mothers know this is true, that none of the children are alike. They come into the world with their own thing, their own nature. And then there's the nurturing that you all give to them. And from the very beginning, they were so different, you tell us, in matriarch.

You all learned early on that when Beyonce was a baby, that she could only be soothed with music. And Solange was the opposite. She would be soothed by reading and other things, but Beyonce only responded to music. And you say that Beyonce loved the freedom of your family dynamic that it gave her, but Solange wanted something more practical and more structured. How did you figure that out?

You all learned early on that when Beyonce was a baby, that she could only be soothed with music. And Solange was the opposite. She would be soothed by reading and other things, but Beyonce only responded to music. And you say that Beyonce loved the freedom of your family dynamic that it gave her, but Solange wanted something more practical and more structured. How did you figure that out?

You all learned early on that when Beyonce was a baby, that she could only be soothed with music. And Solange was the opposite. She would be soothed by reading and other things, but Beyonce only responded to music. And you say that Beyonce loved the freedom of your family dynamic that it gave her, but Solange wanted something more practical and more structured. How did you figure that out?

There was that one time you skipped school and Solange was very upset.

There was that one time you skipped school and Solange was very upset.

There was that one time you skipped school and Solange was very upset.

put your daughters in therapy at a very young age, at a time when it was considered taboo, especially in the Black community. I remember in 1986 when I started the Oprah show, everybody was like, I would never go to a therapist and going to a therapist makes you crazy. And one of your siblings told you you're going to make the girls crazy because they're too young. Something in your instinct said,

put your daughters in therapy at a very young age, at a time when it was considered taboo, especially in the Black community. I remember in 1986 when I started the Oprah show, everybody was like, I would never go to a therapist and going to a therapist makes you crazy. And one of your siblings told you you're going to make the girls crazy because they're too young. Something in your instinct said,

put your daughters in therapy at a very young age, at a time when it was considered taboo, especially in the Black community. I remember in 1986 when I started the Oprah show, everybody was like, I would never go to a therapist and going to a therapist makes you crazy. And one of your siblings told you you're going to make the girls crazy because they're too young. Something in your instinct said,

The girls needed to go to therapy. Why?

The girls needed to go to therapy. Why?

The girls needed to go to therapy. Why?

Welcome back to more of my conversation. Let's talk about the discovery of Beyonce. Can you tell us a story of you and your ex-husband, Matthew, watching her perform for the first time when you saw her?

Welcome back to more of my conversation. Let's talk about the discovery of Beyonce. Can you tell us a story of you and your ex-husband, Matthew, watching her perform for the first time when you saw her?

Welcome back to more of my conversation. Let's talk about the discovery of Beyonce. Can you tell us a story of you and your ex-husband, Matthew, watching her perform for the first time when you saw her?

Yeah, well, and we love it. Listen, I play Cowboy Carter every single morning. My alarm is Texas Hold'em. OK, this ain't Texas. OK. I have to say, though, that your ability to see the difference between the daughters and make a distinction, I think, is what has allowed them to be as close as they are now and also to be respectful of it. I loved in the book where you say. Solange is art.

Yeah, well, and we love it. Listen, I play Cowboy Carter every single morning. My alarm is Texas Hold'em. OK, this ain't Texas. OK. I have to say, though, that your ability to see the difference between the daughters and make a distinction, I think, is what has allowed them to be as close as they are now and also to be respectful of it. I loved in the book where you say. Solange is art.

Yeah, well, and we love it. Listen, I play Cowboy Carter every single morning. My alarm is Texas Hold'em. OK, this ain't Texas. OK. I have to say, though, that your ability to see the difference between the daughters and make a distinction, I think, is what has allowed them to be as close as they are now and also to be respectful of it. I loved in the book where you say. Solange is art.

She is art. She's not just an artist. She is art. Yes. Yes.