Oprah Winfrey

Yeah, and isn't that the whole idea

of every awesome experience is that it takes you out of your ego self and allows you to feel that you are a part of something bigger than your small self.

Right.

Even in that collective effervescence, what you're really feeling is that you're a part of something that's bigger than you.

And it's profound.

And needed.

The fourth is music.

Yep.

We talked about that.

Fifth is visual design.

I thought that was interesting, like great architecture or paintings.

Even though we don't even know that's what we're detecting.

And then spiritual or religious experiences?

Yeah.

Tell us about that.

Well, also that brings us to number eight, which is epiphanies or suddenly understanding the essential truths about life, which is what happened to you also with your brother in that space, right?

When he was dying.

This has to be physically good, actually physically good for us too.

I mean, I would think your blood pressure goes down, all the other things in your body that need to mellow out and chill.

When you're experiencing, if you've had an awesome moment or an awe-filled moment, that it would change your neuro system.