Oprah Winfrey

Yeah.

So tell us about your experiences there.

Because we know that it seems to quiet the ego and help reduce stress.

And it can be a part of also healing trauma.

As you're talking about, that's why you don't have 80%.

That's why you have 80%, right?

Healing trauma and grief or loss.

And so many people who are traumatized are actually really grieving.

Yes.

And so you wrote the book because you wanted the experience for the reader to result in what?

Yeah, you begin the book talking about teaching happiness, yeah.

I love how you begin the book, your introduction.

This is funny to me.

You said, I have taught happiness to hundreds of thousands of people around the world.

It's not obvious why I ended up doing this work.

I've been a pretty wound up anxious person for significant chunks of my life.

And I love this, and was thrown out of my first meditation class for laughing while we chanted, I am a being of purple fire.

Wasn't that a day.

Well, I appreciate you coming on.

flying all the way through the fog, making it here.