Oprah Winfrey

What's your take on screens in schools?

Do you feel it's getting easier to get this message out because more and more parents have become equally as frustrated as you and Hugh?

I hope that it is a beginning of something that really lends itself to allowing other people to understand that we're in trouble.

We're in trouble.

Thank you for being the voice for that.

Thank you, Sophie.

Very much for having me.

Thank you for joining us.

You know, I learned from reading Dopamine Nation that just about anybody can be powerless against these digital forces that we're all up against.

The interesting thing is we regulate cigarettes and we regulate alcohol.

And there is some regulation to gambling for children.

Australia is now putting an age limit on social media.

So why don't we...

put guardrails around this?

Why aren't we aware that this is happening to our kids?

So your final word, what's the most important advice for parents or families grappling with tech addiction?

I go back to what you said in the very beginning, to understanding that this is a drug.

Right.

Yeah.

But in the immediate recognizing what you said at the beginning of this conversation that,