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And I have one of my... I've had 21 dogs and now Sadie is about to... She's going to turn 17.

And the other day we were walking her and she has trouble getting down the stairs sometimes, right?

So now I carry her down the stairs.

And then we were out on the yard and she just started...

cantering, like running.

And I stood there, I think I was in awe.

Like, how is she doing that when you can't walk down the stairs?

Yeah.

Yeah, that something came over her and she just decided, I'm going to run across this yard.

When we come back from this short break, Decker Keltner says, awe has the potential to heal social, cultural, and political divisions.

We are back with Professor Decker Keltner talking about his bestselling book, Awe, The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life.

You talked about, in Awe, you talked about these fractious times.

I mean, politically, socially, culturally.

How do you think...

awe, or if it can, be a bridge to help heal divisions.

Is that possible?

I didn't know that 300 million people were going to the national parks.

So our culture, as you know, is obsessed with this whole idea of ranking who's best and when, when and how and, you know, who's number one and who's not.

So the question is, how can...

schools, how can families, how can communities make space for all four children growing up in an achievement-driven, achievement-oriented environment?