Oprah Winfrey

As you're talking about, that's why you don't have 80%.

That's why you have 80%, right?

Healing trauma and grief or loss.

And so many people who are traumatized are actually really grieving.

Yes.

And so you wrote the book because you wanted the experience for the reader to result in what?

Yeah, you begin the book talking about teaching happiness, yeah.

I love how you begin the book, your introduction.

This is funny to me.

You said, I have taught happiness to hundreds of thousands of people around the world.

It's not obvious why I ended up doing this work.

I've been a pretty wound up anxious person for significant chunks of my life.

And I love this, and was thrown out of my first meditation class for laughing while we chanted, I am a being of purple fire.

Wasn't that a day.

Well, I appreciate you coming on.

flying all the way through the fog, making it here.

Thank you, Dacher Kellner, for this awe-inspiring conversation.

I hope that you all begin to take awe walks for yourselves and find more awe in your everyday.

The book, Awe, the new science of everyday wonder and how it can transform your life is available wherever you buy your books.

Come hang out with us again next week.