Oprah Winfrey

Kelly is joining us from Massachusetts.

Kelly, your story.

Hi.

Oh, I love the warm fire.

You're no longer managing anything now.

You're just a consultant.

No, I'm not.

Yeah, you're not alone.

And in some instances... Yeah, I had a friend whose son had to drop out of college at 19 because he became so obsessed with the devices.

Yeah, I was just going to say... And then when she tried to take it away from him, he ended up, you know, trying to fight her and beat her up.

And it's just... Oh, no.

So it's a real thing.

What you've observed is not some play thing.

It's a real thing.

It's a real thing.

And likely your son, depending upon what your relationship is or is not, may not tell you the truth.

Just like we were hearing earlier with Catherine, you know, they start lying about it and making up stories about it and using other ways to get around it.

And so we're going to send you dopamine nation.

Thank you so much, Kelly.

Next, British actress and member of the royal family Sophie Winkleman joins us.