Oprah Winfrey

But I have to tell you, I mean, when I was watching that on the news, I was so moved by your...

But I have to tell you, I mean, when I was watching that on the news, I was so moved by your...

But I have to tell you, I mean, when I was watching that on the news, I was so moved by your...

authenticity and your sincerity because you know things happen in the world there's a crisis there's a shooting there's a bombing and leaders they show up they do their little drive through and run through and have their speech but you were in it you were in the center of it and i think only by being in it and for me on hindsight you know taking a bit of time to reflect

authenticity and your sincerity because you know things happen in the world there's a crisis there's a shooting there's a bombing and leaders they show up they do their little drive through and run through and have their speech but you were in it you were in the center of it and i think only by being in it and for me on hindsight you know taking a bit of time to reflect

authenticity and your sincerity because you know things happen in the world there's a crisis there's a shooting there's a bombing and leaders they show up they do their little drive through and run through and have their speech but you were in it you were in the center of it and i think only by being in it and for me on hindsight you know taking a bit of time to reflect

You were in it with people crying on your shoulders, literally, in your bosom, yes.

You were in it with people crying on your shoulders, literally, in your bosom, yes.

You were in it with people crying on your shoulders, literally, in your bosom, yes.

You and your administration reformed New Zealand's gun laws in 10 days. And in reading the book, I now I can see that you were fueled by your passion came from being amongst the community and feeling their loss in such a personal and powerful way. How did you make that happen so quickly?

You and your administration reformed New Zealand's gun laws in 10 days. And in reading the book, I now I can see that you were fueled by your passion came from being amongst the community and feeling their loss in such a personal and powerful way. How did you make that happen so quickly?

You and your administration reformed New Zealand's gun laws in 10 days. And in reading the book, I now I can see that you were fueled by your passion came from being amongst the community and feeling their loss in such a personal and powerful way. How did you make that happen so quickly?

Because one of the things you talk about here is when you went and visited people in the hospital, nobody had one gunshot. Nobody.

Because one of the things you talk about here is when you went and visited people in the hospital, nobody had one gunshot. Nobody.

Because one of the things you talk about here is when you went and visited people in the hospital, nobody had one gunshot. Nobody.

Well, as we were talking, no one had any expectation that you would end up in your administration during your time there serving as prime minister as the worst mass killing ever in the history of New Zealand. Also, nobody expected the pandemic.

Well, as we were talking, no one had any expectation that you would end up in your administration during your time there serving as prime minister as the worst mass killing ever in the history of New Zealand. Also, nobody expected the pandemic.

Well, as we were talking, no one had any expectation that you would end up in your administration during your time there serving as prime minister as the worst mass killing ever in the history of New Zealand. Also, nobody expected the pandemic.

And during the pandemic, some called your COVID policy one of your greatest political legacies, but there were also blistering critics and criticisms for it, and even people marching outside your office and death threats. You talk a lot about it here. We get inside your head. But can you briefly, for our audience, describe... what grappling with that experience was like.

And during the pandemic, some called your COVID policy one of your greatest political legacies, but there were also blistering critics and criticisms for it, and even people marching outside your office and death threats. You talk a lot about it here. We get inside your head. But can you briefly, for our audience, describe... what grappling with that experience was like.