Owen Benjamin

Mm-hmm.

Because the beauty of it, I know a lot of people are probably bummed and confused right now.

It's all fair.

Like everything works fine.

You know, there's like, there's like spiritual usury, just like biological usury.

You do a bunch of blow, you're up for three days.

You're going to have to pay it back with sleep, you know?

And it's like, lies are like that too.

If you take advantage of somebody by lying to them or manipulating them, it will come back.

It just might take some time.

Well, I mean, I could go into a lot about nukes themselves.

I think a lot of that's spellcraft.

Well, yeah, and it can destroy the world.

Because one of my red flags is when someone attributes an action that only God can do to a man, it's probably a spell.

Like imagine a narcissistic wizard being like, if I hit this button, everyone in the world dies.

You know, I'm already like, what is this?

And my dad gave a speech once in Hiroshima.

And I remember being like, oh, he's probably going to get cancer.

And someone's like, no, it's fine.

And I'm like, huh, what do you mean it's fine?