Owen Gregorian

We can't let anybody know how we did something because then we won't be able to do it anymore.

And we might burn our resources and we might, you know, it could cause all sorts of damage within intelligence.

So we can't tell you how we did it.

And they always stick to that.

Right.

And I can't imagine the same thing.

Yeah.

I just, I just have, I'm just highly skeptical, but I just don't know that I can really put any credibility into this to the way Scott would talk about it.

Just because it's like, okay, what's the motive behind this?

Like why release this information?

If you're just bragging, that doesn't make any sense, right?

It doesn't make any sense to brag about what you did unless you're trying to make something happen.

And to me, it probably is meant to create paranoia in the minds of the Iranian leadership that if they think their traffic cameras and phone towers and everything else is

are compromised, then they're not gonna wanna use them, right?

And they'll be always looking over their shoulder and they'll be having a harder time getting around.

And so to me, that's the,

this is an operation, right?

This is a logical operation.

So I don't put any credibility into it.

And it may still be true.