Owen Gregorian

On Butler, that chart that saved the president, that chart became the most famous chart ever.

I used to make PowerPoint.

I was a PowerPoint guy back in corporate.

And when that chart came up and president looked at it, has anybody tried to make a suit of that chart?

No, okay.

Go ahead.

Okay, thank you.

Owen, on that study, so they say that people that don't sleep enough, they're becoming psychos or what?

And Joseph Scott.

And that's the best part of those questions like that.

That's the best part of this section of the show where Scott does it because he teaches us all to look at the news from a different angle like that instead of just taking it from whatever they tell us.

So this is the lesson.

Like, will that get him off?

Because, Marcela, you're a lawyer, you know?

One thing that's is how Trump created assets out of the air, right?

He didn't come with a basket of money, right?

He came with an idea that there could be guns around, right?

He also came up with the idea that, hey, tariffs might come down.

That's the offer.

There's nothing, he's not giving anything.