Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I want to make sure everybody has a chance to get on. Let's just make sure all the platforms have loaded. Just want to make sure everybody gets a chance to hear what I have to say today. Again, good morning, everyone. I think we're live, so I'm going to go forward. For those of you that haven't had the chance to meet me, my name is Shelly.
I'd like to begin today by sharing a short clip from an interview Scott did on Real Talk with Zuby. So we're going to try this, and here we go.
What do you want your legacy to be?
Oh, that's really interesting. I don't believe in an afterlife, so I don't think of it in those terms. I think about sort of what I can do while I'm here. I... I don't know if I ever said this publicly, but I have a philosophy to live my life to have the biggest funeral. So I want people to come to my funeral because I did something for them.
No other reason, not because they've heard of Dilbert or something. I want people to say, you know what? I read his book. I tried his diet advice. I did something, just anything.
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Chapter 2: How does inadequate sleep impact mental health?
And he made my life better. And I'm going to take that forward, you know, teach my kids and stuff. That would be the, I want the biggest possible funeral.
Awesome, man. Well, Scott, your work has definitely made my life better, and I know it's done the same for millions of others. I do believe in the afterlife, and I hope we'll see you up there in a good place.
I'll see you there. Let's hope you're right. I'll see you there.
It was Scott's wish not to just include his closest friends and family, but to include the community he built, those he inspired, those he taught, encouraged in his celebration of life. Therefore, a live stream honoring his legacy will take place this Sunday, January 25th, roughly around 11 a.m. Pacific Standard Time.
And now I'd like to welcome for today's show, Owen, Erica, Marcella, and Sergio for the Scott Adams School.
Thank you, Shelly. We also want to introduce a special guest that's joining us today. I think you'll recognize him as soon as his camera turns on.
oh there he is i'm just waiting for the cue i was just waiting to hear brick suit and then i would jump in there he is brick suit our special guest today joining us and so fashionable and i feel very underdressed in my pajamas sorry um so you guys i think we need to sip now shelly am i sipping are you sipping with the video We're trying to be fancy today, guys.
We think we're going to be able to get this on screen for you. You're muted, Shelly. You're muted.
There we go.
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Chapter 3: What happened during the Minnesota protests?
Ah, that was pretty good. Pretty, pretty good. So if you're not a subscriber on Locals or on X, where you can see the Dilbert Reborn comic, but only there... The series is now about the boss sending his employees onto the streets to get things for him when he lives in a city that has become dangerous.
So the employees are complaining about the danger of coming to work, and he just sent Tina to get his lunch. And I'll read it to you, but it's basically Tina. She's a little unhappy talking to the boss, and she says, Thanks for sending me through the gauntlet of lawlessness to pick up your lunch. I got 20,000 steps just fleeing for my life. And the boss says, You have a Fitbit?
And Tina says, I did, but now it's the property of a guy they call the Midnight Crapper. So you would not have seen that when Dilbert was in newspapers. So let me say again that my creative revival is really fun. Every time I sit down to make the comic now, I'm enjoying it. Like I'm looking for a time, oh, I'd love to write some comics today.
Every single day for 10 years, at least 10 years, prior to being canceled, I hated my job. Now, it was better than a real job because I could just sit there drawing pictures and stuff. But I didn't like it because, you know, anything you like is great until you have to do too much of it. And if you have to do a comic every single day, every day, You get tired of it after 25 years.
So believe me, getting canceled was like, I swear it was like being reborn. I call it Dilber reborn, but it was like I was reborn because I actually love my job. So my thoughts of desperately wanting to retire, which I did prior to being canceled, I desperately wanted to retire. I just needed to find the way to do it. That wasn't the way. It just happened. But man, it's good. It's good stuff.
Okay, guys, come back.
Oh, I love that. We were lucky enough one afternoon, Scott. So Scott used to live stream from local sometimes, like in the middle of the day, we'd be so lucky. All of a sudden, Scott, you'd get the notification. We're like, what's he doing? And sometimes he would just be drawing out Dilbert cartoons, even robots read news. And he would like workshop it with us.
Like, what do you think a funny name would be or whatever? And we'd all be putting it in. And as soon as he saw the one he loved, I mean, the laughter was, Like the head would go back, like the eyes start watering, the glasses come off, the whole thing. Oh, it was so good.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Trump's Greenland acquisition?
But hi, everybody. I'm Erica. I'll let everyone introduce themselves and then we'll get into it.
Good morning. I'm Marcella.
And I'm Owen Gregorian.
We should probably take a sip.
Oh, oh, all right. Did you guys sip? I didn't get to sip with y'all. Okay, here we go.
I sipped. I'm good.
Okay, good. And so, and we have Sergio. So BrickSuit, a lot of us recognize you. I think most of us do. And I think maybe we wanted to ask you a couple of questions too, because you've had quite a fascinating run over the years with President Trump and his campaign. And I don't know if I forgot this, but the group reminded me today that you were at a
in Butler, Pennsylvania, that horrendous day, weren't you? What happened?
I was. I was there. I was in the front row, a rally much like every other rally I'd been to. And the reason I had that time off was because I was actually a delegate for California, for the RNC. So I was a Trump delegate planning on going to Milwaukee. And then they added the Butler rally kind of at the last minute.
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Chapter 5: How is the Board of Peace being perceived?
And, you know, we've seen so many times where President Trump has brought you up on stage at a rally, shouted you out from the podium. I know Scott got a big kick out of you. You know, it's just fun. It's like this character you've created, right? And how has that worked out for you?
Totally unexpected. Totally unexpected. Totally not something I ever thought would happen. But as I'm looking down on my phone here to get a call to get up, there's a direct link actually between Scott and me becoming Brixen. Not many people know this. I just put up in my pinned tweet. The first rally I ever went to was in Las Vegas. And I was very far back.
And I thought, you know, after the rally, I went up to the people in the front and said, how early did you get here? When did you get here? And they told me the next rally I went to was in 2018 in Mesa, Arizona, for a senator candidate. I think it was Martha McSally in Arizona. And at that time, I'm on the Donald on Reddit. You know, I'm definitely tuned in to Scott.
And he picked up on the slogan from Reddit, jobs, not mobs. So that got into my consciousness, and I ended up making a shirt for that. Went to the rally early in Phoenix, and then President Trump actually got a picture of me on the grounds there wearing my Jobs Not Mobs shirt and tweeted that out. So the very second rally I went to, I pick up a slogan from Scott. I make a shirt.
It gets a picture of me tweeted out because it was Twitter back then. It wasn't posted. It was a tweet tweeted out by the president. And so later when I decided to become a human meme, It really drew a lot of inspiration from that experience where taking a slogan out of cyberspace, out of the web, and putting it into real life and becoming a meme in real life.
That's basically why I decided to buy the suit.
You guys have questions for Brick Suit? I know you do. It's so interesting.
I do. This is an amazing honor to have a living legend meme with us walking. I've been to a rally and I might have seen you there. Did you go to Tucson ever on 2020?
I don't think I went to Tucson in 2020, but I went there in 2024. There was a rally at the Linda Ronstadt Center that I went to.
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of the DHS self-deportation policy?
Okay, there was an impostor taking a... So, no, but the beautiful lesson here that you give us a break to, Mr. Brixut, is that you are telling us that with that effort that you did to stand out,
a you got the attention which is the number one rule in persuasion to get attention right scott taught us that and you got the attention of the the president to to to make you into not just uh like one dimensional meme but a three-dimensional meme that is multiplying that is taking videos that is Spreading everywhere like that. And that's what a meme is. We're all memes, basically.
Every person is a living meme in a way. Some are more proliferous than others. But this is wonderful to have you here and show us what can be done.
Well, actually, that's kind of what actually happened is because basically my motivation at the beginning was get to the rallies early so that I could be up near the front.
because i wanted to be there but then when i had the very third the third rally i ever went to i bought this because i had two extra days in dc i had a trip planned back east um i was flying into dc and i wanted something to be able to trigger the leftists so i bought the whole suit and the day before i left my home in san diego president trump announced a rally in montoursville pennsylvania
I was able to go to that rally. I got there at midnight. I was third in line. I ended up in the front row. And that's where he first called me up on stage. And so then as I began to go back to rallies, you know, I would get up near the front. And this is 2020. This is, you know, there's a lot of press coverage at that time. And it became apparent to me, like, I will say this.
The first time I ever gave an interview, I was terrible at it. It was not a talent that I had. It wasn't something I was able to do well. As I did more of them, I got better. And from, I guess, a very selfish perspective, I realized that I had done so many of these interviews that I was actually better at articulating whatever it was the administration was trying to convey at that point in time.
So I felt like if I get there early and I wear this suit, the media will come to me because they're going to assume that I'm just some fool dressed up like a clown. And then I can give them sound bites that the Trump team is actually putting out there and trying to emphasize in that given time frame. So I was kind of like...
know i was under the radar to the media at that point they had no idea who i was i would show up they didn't they didn't really know who i was except he's a guy that had been on stage twice and i was able to get the message out very useful you became a useful person not just an entertainment what made you want to do this you know what made me want to do this is a really good question it stems back i first of all i wrote it for reagan in 84
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Chapter 7: How does the podcast address the topic of political polarization?
And how did you find the suit? Did you have to have it custom tailored or was there someone actually selling the suit?
The suit is actually made. It's an off the rack suit. It's called a stag suit. It's from England. And apparently, unlike an American bachelor party, when they have these in England, All the lads will order similar clothing so they can be identified in the group. So they behave much like an American bachelorette party would in terms of their apparel.
Now, couple that with the best clubs in London having a dress code that the men have to wear suits. There became this cottage industry for semi-disposable cheap polyester suits and very loud patterns for this type of bachelor party. And so they have like rocket ships and skies and thunder and, you know, like lightning bolts. And one of the ones they just had was a brick wall.
And when I did my initial suit for something to trip my initial search for something to trigger leftists, when I went to DC, I'm thinking, what do I do? Like taxes? No. How do I get a border? shirt. What about a wall suit? And I searched for wall suit. This came up. Um, and I, you know, I ordered it and it's the best 80 bucks I ever spent. Nice.
I love that. It's kind of like when I was saying with Sergio T. So Sergio has taught this group how to easily, um, make memes using chat GPT. And so now we have all these meme warriors. And I think it's, it's kind of like what you're doing saying you're a living meme because, um, you're not saying anything. You're just putting a visual out there for interpretation.
So I see it and I laugh and maybe my neighbor would cry. So you didn't say anything. It's like, it's your reaction. I love that. Marcella or Owen, sorry, I cut you off.
Hi, BrickSuit. I'm also a fellow Californian. So I wanted to ask you two questions. One is, how is it, Living in California, it's very hard. I personally know being a Trump supporter since 2015, how hard it is to be a supporter. Have you had any issues with either the government or people?
Oh, well, I had some gentlemen from the FBI come and visit me, you know, at my workplace in early 2021. So I had that issue. But I think the main question you might be asking is about, have I had any blowback from my public support of the president? And I can tell you this, when you're an undercover Trump supporter,
and nobody knows it and then you go to a rally and the president calls you up on stage and two days later you're on fox and friends and then you come back to work the secret is kind of out you know when you get doxxed by the president in that way you know you have to make a decision and then i decided to roll with it now my former employer Cannot say enough good things about them.
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Chapter 8: What are the final thoughts shared by the hosts?
It wasn't about, you know, it wasn't about so much about me wanting to be recognized at every rally. It's just that, you know, low key, if he wanted to be calling attention to that, I was kind of there as as something he point to and not just as a prop, but also as a really this is important. It's really it's really as a proxy for all of his supporters.
There's another group of people who go to all the rallies, the Front Row Joes, which I'm sure many people are familiar with. And so I believe that the president did like to recognize all of us on occasion because it reminds everybody out there of his supporters. Have I been to the border directly? No. Have I covered those stories directly? No.
That probably will change, though, in the coming years. I am now fully retired and looking to do some more stuff. I wasn't able to make it to Minneapolis, but I'm hoping to go to some other cities where similar operations occur in the future. Yeah.
And I mean, there may be more rallies coming up, too. I know there's been some talk about doing that.
There's one on Tuesday in Iowa, and I am trying to get there.
I would like to add one thing. On Butler, that chart that saved the president, that chart became the most famous chart ever. I used to make PowerPoint. I was a PowerPoint guy back in corporate. And when that chart came up and president looked at it, has anybody tried to make a suit of that chart?
No, there are people who are selling brick suits on Etsy right now. I mean, there's a couple people, I get messages about that. Really not something I can control. There are other people who have kind of cashed in on it, but I have not.
No, okay. Go ahead. Okay, thank you.
I thank you, brick suit, because I know you've stayed in California and to be honest, you're a symbol. for all of us that are silent, basically. Obviously not anymore for me, but there's so much support for Trump and for JD Vance and such policies, but there's lots of Californians that have to be very quiet because they'll lose their job, they'll do anything to them.
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