Oz Woloshyn

You know, I have a darker version of this coming into my mind, which is the AI targeting systems, you know, basically making kill decision recommendations and the, you know, the military, the soldiers are in their control center and they're getting, you know, recommendations every 30 seconds and they have to decide within, you know, very, very, very compressed timeline whether or not to accept the recommendation.

I mean,

You're in a military environment where your mission is to defeat the enemy.

Essentially, your job is just to approve decisions.

I don't know, without getting too heady, where do you think this leaves us?

So the final outpost of humanity will be that we can accept legal liability.

That's the human role.

That's the role they can't take away from us.

It's like going to jail for the problems that are created by AI.

You know, I want to come back to the sort of open claw and Malt Book moment, which I think are two slightly separate phenomena.

Could you maybe talk a little bit about both of them?

And those moments were kind of compressed earlier this year.

Malt Book was a social network claiming to be all AI, but kind of wasn't really.

And the founder of that ended up, I think, now working at Meta.

And the founder of OpenClaw, which is an agentic orchestration system, essentially, is now working at OpenAI.

So what did you make of those two kind of things that happened this year in terms of agentic AI?

I think on Malt Book, I read an LSE study that the agents were twice as likely to ask each other, who is your operator then?

Who are you?

So, I mean, as we think about our online identity, do you think that will be ultimately the most relevant question to ask one another when we're in online environments?

One of the kind of, I think, points of inspiration for the show, for Shell Game was season two of Shell Game with Sam Altman saying, we'll soon see the first unicorn of one person.