Pablo Torre

Right.

It's the question of who does James Dolan want in here because James Dolan has the ability as proprietor of Madison Square Garden to have who he wants in his house.

And for people who don't know about like why all of this is doable, how a billionaire who owns a building that feels civic can simply operate it the way that he wants despite tax breaks granted by the public.

by fans, by the way, who don't necessarily know at all that they're even being watched.

How is all of this okay from a big picture perspective?

One of the happiest places on earth, as well as what feels like a public space.

This is where it gets really interesting to me because

What you've described is something that feels a way, but legally, that feeling is not codified, right?

Like the idea that fans believe that these are civic trusts.

And so the idea that we've been spied on and surveilled without our knowledge and are being kept out because we dare to exercise what feels like a protected right to free speech,

The idea that James Dolan is targeting fans and banning them occasionally because they say sell the team, it turns out the First Amendment does not protect that.

Right.

And I should clarify that one of the things that we discovered in the last episode was that

this is not done in concert with the NYPD or the FBI.

But the NYPD told us, here Pablo Torre finds out that the cops don't send any facial recognition data or any other kind of data to the garden.

And as for the FBI, multiple MSG insiders tell Wired that there were discussions at one point about incorporating the most wanted lists, but that notion basically fizzled out.

And so what we're dealing with is what does this man, James Dolan, want to do with, again, the thing that feels to him like his house and the thing that feels to the rest of us like also kind of ours?

So I just want to actually highlight a couple of examples.

So then what is happening here mechanically inside the garden that we haven't reported yet, but we've been collecting because one of the things when it comes to James Dolan's enemies list

of which I am, for now, not a member.