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not through the lens of the team that is up 2-0 on the Sixers right now, and whose players we will separate here for the purposes of this episode, from Knicks owner James Dolan.

But the thing that is so remarkable about the ACLU, in case you're not familiar, is that it does not fear power.

Ben Weisner has literally sued the CIA.

The ACLU does not abide by party politics, as you will see.

Although Newsmax host Michael Savage

In fact, the full video and transcript of that riff from Michael Savage, which went on to praise European Americans while discussing hellholes like China and India and the disloyalty of immigrants, was reposted on Truth Social by at real Donald Trump himself, making news about two weeks ago, which must have been fun, I thought, for the ACLU and a certain diehard Knicks fan to see.

It's one of the more interesting and important parts of working for the ACLU.

For people who are not familiar with your work, it's that Bill O'Reilly, on the one hand, will say in 2004 that you guys are, quote, the most dangerous organization in the United States of America right now, second next to Al Qaeda, which is an actual quote he said on his radio show.

And yet, you are the guys who will infuriate the left because you dare to say that freedom of speech as a principle must apply even to the people whose speech we find devastating and unconscionable on some personal level.

All of which is to say that your conscience has been consistent in ways that are, I think, unimpeachable, except for one topic.

You have had the stones to go after everyone except for who then?

Yeah.

Noah Shachtman, who we collaborated with on our investigation into Madison Square Garden, of course, with Wired Magazine three weeks ago now.

We spotlit James Dolan, who, it turns out, is, for you, until today, the figure you have most feared.

for entirely selfish reasons.

You're the deputy legal director of the ACLU.

Hey, it's Noah Chestnut from The Athletic.

If you're into games and sports, pay attention.

I'm going to give you four sports terms.

You tell me the common thread.