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in the back of the fridge right now?

What's sitting back there that you're like, man?

And the character that you are playing, the casting call for that character, how do you describe what the role is?

That was my next investigation.

Why the f*** does Roy have a beard now?

Well, but the reason that you are the perfect person to sit here with me today is because I consider you somebody who is deeply savvy and preemptive about the business of media because I regard you as somebody who not only will be thoughtful in terms of how you do media, but you're out here trying to figure out

who's getting one over me?

How can I make sure that I am not losing the race that I'm not even aware is being run?

And you're also somebody who is frankly reporting on this stuff, even if it's just for your own personal edification.

Like the question of why is Roy not doing as many podcasts now was kind of an economic indicator to me.

I was like, oh, what is Roy?

What did Roy figure?

What did Roy find out?

And the thing about

The instinct here, the instinct that I feel all the time doing three episodes a week, you know, which I can't say without a little bit of just edge.

And shout out to my producers for whom I do not forget the sacrifice we've made of our families to do that.

The whole point is to say yes, is to always be churning.

And so I'm detecting in you not just like, ah, mental sort of like reset, but also like there's an inefficiency maybe.

Do you get updates from anybody from the inside who's like, you should know that this thing just happened.

But on the job fair, what job were you most delighted to hear about that you didn't totally understand until you had them in your podcast?