Pablo Torre

Were virtues in the first place.

Yeah.

Yeah, and it's interesting to be a show that has felt, again, the SEO, the search engine optimization incentives around being the person who's willing to interrogate and occasionally even prove what feels like a conspiratorial theory.

Journalistically.

Yeah.

It's interesting to be outside of a of an instant of an organization.

I was gonna say institution and organization, a mainstream media organization and get credit for being disruptive.

And yet at the same time, be always trying to follow, again, the Douglas North Star.

Well played.

This value of like, man, here's an interesting thing that I have been hearing from front office executives around the NBA.

When it comes to gross violations of the NBA's cardinal rules, such as the salary cap, what one NBA executive told me was, yeah, we don't want to have to learn how to do money laundering.

We don't wanna have to be competing in a market where we can't trust our other competitors because they're orchestrating insane schemes untrammeled by any regulation.

And now we are gonna have to pay a price

in a way that I think only continues to erode the premise of a rules-based sport.

When the people who are meant to enforce fair competition themselves are suffering from a conflict of interest, and the public interest is not the most heavily weighted interest in that conflict.

I think what you're seeing happen in sports is what you're seeing happen in America in general.

And I think that we are at the point where...

Yeah, I mean, look, I want you to get paid for all of your work.

But if you need to go to a Russian porn literary clearinghouse, that's the only way you're going to get... Why are you working porn into this?

I'm just saying, if you got a torrent inside the box by David Epstein to help save whatever is left of...