Pablo Torre

What advantage did Leah Thomas have physiologically, even after testosterone suppression therapy?

We've done episodes about that.

This is not an episode about whether an athlete who went through male puberty is better

in the abstract than a female athlete who didn't go through male puberty.

That is not the debate.

The debate is what are people spending their money on that they don't want you to realize that will fundamentally strip the rights of the most

actually victimized population of people in America to benefit an administration that's using it to just gain more power and enrich themselves.

Like that's the real mind of all of it is that they are winning.

They're actually winning and they're running the same play over and over and over again, like an NFL team that's just running the ball.

50 times in a row.

Yeah, Betsy DeVos, man, like she is the family.

The DeVos family is crazy, right?

There's Eric Prince, the guy behind Blackwater, which is like the paramilitary private defense contractor.

He's like in the picture.

He's in the family tree.

But she herself is someone who is not merely like very intertwined, I would say, with the Trump administration.

She is also her family is alongside Rich DeVos.

Yeah, they own the Orlando Magic.

And I think if people cared more about the magic, maybe Kevin Clark is like the only person I know who even vaguely cares about the Orlando magic.

Maybe that would be a thing people really thought about more, but it's coming from NBA owners.