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And at the same time, they also temporarily suspended Coach Lars himself for six days for failing to report what he knew about Klein's conduct.

And so we should also say here that you requested comment from Chip Klein and Chip Klein, the assistant in question who worked for Lars Jorgensen, coach Lars said in part, quote, I choose not to respond to this request out of respect for what was supposed to be a confidential process, end quote.

And I do want to return, by the way, to Coach Lars himself in just a bit here.

But the question of, again, storytelling.

Why wasn't this stuff in Riley Gaines's book?

It raises a question of that itself being a conspicuous choice now that you see it through this lens.

Right.

I mean, it would suggest that there might be more serious problems in women's sports than trans people.

The version of this story and the version of Riley Gaines, right, that continues to go viral online to the point that she is this leading figure in the Trump MAGA Republican movement.

How different is the person that these teammates see on television from the Riley Gaines that they swam with back in 2019, 2020?

It's really clear that Riley has gone through a significant evolution.

Trinity, who was friends with her at the time, says that Riley in college was really different than her super Christian, super conservative public persona these days.

And according to my 31-page timeline of Riley's life, this is 2021 after Trump left office.

They took a two-hour drive together up to another teammate's family lake house.

This is so funny looking back on.

I drove a car of people and like Riley was in my front seat.

We talked the two hours there and back.

And we both have conservative Christian upbringings.

Like kind of like talked about that and shared just about like dads that were definitely more like old school kids.

And her making a comment and just being like, yeah, like I'm not like a diehard tromper.