All-American Grift: We Investigated Trump's Favorite Sports Troll
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What is the background of Riley Gaines and her connection to the trans-athlete debate?
So the reason you're hearing and seeing me right now is because we have a bit of incredible news to share. Our show, Pablo Torre Finds Out, was not only named one of the best of 2025 by Apple Podcasts, but our episode, The Silent Superstar and the Rotten Apple Tree, which was, you know, the whole investigation and aspiration and Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers, was also chosen as one of Apple Podcasts' best episodes of the year. You can check both of those things out, the best shows and the best episodes list. right now in the Apple podcast app. So thank you so much for listening. Thank you for making clear what Apple time, Apple time actually means. And today you are going to find out what this sound is.
Where's our beautiful, great swimmer gains. Where's gains? Look at, come up here. Will you please come up here? Come up, come up, come up. This is a great champion. And she was beating everybody and then one day she looked over and said, that's the largest human being I've ever seen.
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This is really cool. I've never done anything like this before. I've never done a podcast before. Apologies in advance. No, no, no, no. So I want to explain for our audience here. Let's just get into it. I want to explain for our audience here that you, Madison, are joining us from where? I'm in San Francisco. I'm in the Center for Investigative Reporting Offices. The Center for Investigative Reporting is, of course, the parent company of Mother Jones, which is one of the most venerable journalistic institutions in America, has been that way for decades upon decades upon decades. And it's really cool to partner with you guys on a story that I have been trying to fit into our strange docket Because I think that this investigation that you did for us is the thing that has been lurking underneath the surface of like the most explosive topic in sports and politics for, what, four years?
Four quite consequential years at the very least at this point? Yeah, even more. 2020, I think, is when this all started. And it has been a wild ride. And I'm excited to dig into this part of it. Yeah, so this is, if nothing else, a profile. It's a profile of, I think, what might be the main character of this movement that has dominated American politics. So who is the face of this movement, Madison?
Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.
The poster child, the it girl, the Regina George of this movement is the 24-year-old who clapped longer than anyone else at a White House ceremony in February during Hail to the Chief as Trump walked in. Riley Gaines. Right there, like off to the right of just the center of the frame in a resplendent white outfit is Riley Gates. She's got her real MAGA look going. She's got the full face of makeup, long, wavy blonde hair, and she's really become so recognizable over the last three years, at least if you're in the Fox News audience. Thank you very much. This is a nice crowd, isn't it, huh?
You've been waiting a long time for this.
So have I. Actually, it was so ridiculous. But here we are. So this is Donald Trump preparing to sign his executive order keeping men out of women's sports, a threat to defund schools that let trans girls play on the girls' team. Which means that the girls who are assembled there in the front row wearing their uniforms and their medals, these are the people that Donald Trump and Riley Gaines are saving. They're protecting them, these victims of the trans movement. Right. Donald Trump is here to protect women is the really clear message of this photo op. And for people who don't know what Riley Gaines' lore is, her origin story, Donald Trump is very helpfully here to fill us in on the injustice that Riley Gaines suffered when she was a college swimmer.
League forced her to share a spot on the podium with a male swimmer who took her trophy while the media celebrated this stolen glory. And Riley is just a tremendous athlete, and it was a very unfair situation. I watched it. A lot of people watched it. It was ridiculous, frankly.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the background of Riley Gaines and her connection to the trans-athlete debate?
0:00–10:25
2
How did Riley Gaines become a prominent figure in the anti-trans movement?
10:25–21:18
3
What controversies surrounded the NCAA and Leah Thomas's participation in women's sports?
21:18–33:37
4
What allegations have been made against Coach Lars Jorgensen?
33:37–43:50
5
How has Riley Gaines's narrative evolved in the media?
43:50–54:27
6
What are the implications of the recent lawsuits involving Riley Gaines?
54:27–1:07:42
7
How do funding sources influence the anti-trans movement in sports?
1:07:42–1:19:19
Speakers
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