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Motivating her by claiming that she had a lack of talent.

She proved that she was a prospect worth investing in.

She has remade American public policy in her image.

The movement that she is the face of works because her story, her storytelling is believed by so many parents and Americans who see this story through her eyes.

We've got the NCAA ban.

We've got the Olympic ban.

We've got these kinds of policy changes that, you know, and this is a key point, could actually maybe be undone in the future pretty easily.

You know, if we get a new president, maybe there's a new executive order.

Maybe the U.S.

Olympic Paralympic Committee changes its mind.

So the conundrum for Riley Gaines right now is how do we make these policy changes, these transports, bans permanent or at least more permanent than Trump?

How do you make them apply nationwide so that no trans girl, K-12, college, even blue states, New York, California, none of them can play on a girls' team?

And how do you do that permanently?

Use the courts.

Gaines v. NCAA.

This big lawsuit that's now winding its way through the court system.

Who is behind that?

Who's funding that one?

I'm so sorry to say that it is time to listen to Riley Gaines' podcast.

Today's guest is Bill Bach.