Pablo Torre

It's incredible.

So the document that's next in your folder, if you can open that, please.

It takes us to April 2025.

This is the month after Liz Ora gets fired.

And a guy by the name of Joseph Schwartz gets sentenced to three years in prison for defrauding the government of $38 million.

And Joseph Schwartz is alleged to have overseen, quote, a collapsed nursing home empire and has allegedly willfully failed to pay employment taxes.

And so at around this time,

there arrives a lobbying filing, which is the thing in front of you.

And so our focus here isn't even on Joseph Schwartz, despite all of that stuff.

It's on his lobbyists.

And so the tag team that he hires to lobby on his behalf, Brace, are who?

And it is like the price, by the way.

So there is in this filing also, if you flip through it, to the section called convictions disclosure.

It is worth pointing out that like they do have to cop to the fact that they are seeking a federal pardon and have themselves on November 30th, 2022 been found notably guilty of illegal campaign robocalls, telecommunications fraud in Cuyahoga County, Ohio.

Can you catch us up on who these guys are?

A Hall of Fame trajectory for Jacob Wohl so far.

And then also... He MeToo'd Robert Mueller?

But this is the whole, like, if you go through the timeline of when and how we executed other robocall frauds, it's all along the lines of just like outright scamming, trying to convince...

normal would-be citizens trying to do good to engage in, in 2023, something that resulted in a $5.1 million fine against these two guys.

This was in Ohio.