Pablo Torre

But at this point in our episode, everybody listening understands how insane that is.

That you, guy they've been listening to, tell stories with this level of alacrity, couldn't do that because of this internal... Was this the hearse?

Was this finally you being like, I guess I got to get in this thing now?

There's one quote that I remember you giving at one point, and it was, if you had filet mignon every single night, you'd stop tasting it.

Which is to say that even though you missed so actively the thing that you weren't doing anymore, it felt like by the end also your ability to enjoy it was also changing, which is an interesting tension of like missing something that wasn't even the thing that for you it was anymore.

Well, this is the other thing about having a superpower in any way, right?

Is that there is an implication that...

man, look at this gift.

But the more I learn about sports, the more I realize that extremity in any fashion also implies a certain imbalance if you're not extraordinarily careful.

100%.

The metric, the standard of success is not a health.

Did you get a sense that when you went to therapy that your psychologist was like, I know exactly the type of person you are?

relationships and allowing people who i care about to help me along the way when you talk about basically having these relationships building a cabinet of people around you i think about how you are also one of the very special lucky people to have played basketball with a man who had his own cabinet yeah what was playing basketball against barack obama like

Somewhere the ghost of... Teddy Roosevelt.

I was going to say, yeah, Teddy Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson.

Better yet.

Can't believe it.

Ride it, my pony.

My saddle's waiting.

Come and jump on it.