Pablo Torre

And I'll talk to you next time.

But who's counting, Ms.

Tarlow?

Who's counting at this point?

Oh, thank you so much.

External validation is a poison I love to drink.

So thank you so much for having me and for stating all the things my mom wants me to say even louder than I already do.

Likewise.

Like, allow me to say, as much as my mom is disappointed that I haven't gotten to med school or law school, doing a show like this with you really is something that I appreciate.

So I appreciate that.

Yeah, I think about this all the time now, the question of accountability and how does it get imposed and who gets to matter when it comes to, oh, there's a report or there's something resembling shame that a really wealthy, powerful person should feel.

And in this case, sports is a fascinating sort of like laboratory for it because, you

A guy like Steve Ballmer, you know, it's interesting when he was running Microsoft and he was the CEO at the time of the, I would say, most infamous at that point, anti-competitive scandal in the history of the U.S.

government and our country.

He was so unmoved, I would say, by the idea that you must be regulated and your monopoly must be broken up.

Sports is fascinating because there are lots of the same desires of, wait a minute, we're the biggest and the richest.

Steve Ballmer is the richest owner in sports by orders of magnitude in the world.

He basically is richer than all the other owners combined.

And so the question that he is asking himself, according to my reporting, is, again, why can't I use all of my powers to their full extent?

Why am I being regulated and suppressed by lesser beings?