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Oh, exactly.

Oh, sure.

Speaking of your female counterparts here, but like we got that wide receiver such a diva.

Right, yeah.

It originates apparently from the Italian for goddess.

And it was used in 19th century music.

opera.

This is from your culture, your ancient culture.

So I did promise you a secret, and we are going to get to that, the thing that Brandon Jovanovic was carrying onto the Metropolitan Opera House stage as Captain Ahab, in just a bit here.

But in order to truly understand the devotion and the intensity that this particular art form is steeped in, I did want to try and explain something else first.

The concept of the castrato.

And this was in part because in various parts of Europe under the control of the Catholic Church, such as Rome, women were banned from the stage altogether until about the 1800s.

And so these men with the prepubescent vocal structures and the adult lung power despite that came to be some of the richest and most famous celebrities in the whole world.

The Timothee Chalamets of their time.

In fact, composers like Handel and Vivaldi and Mozart, maybe you've heard of him, they wrote operas specifically for castrato sopranos.

I don't know how many, 10 or... I'm not here to turn a political... Right.

To make a political turn.

Exactly.

In terms of we need to prosecute those.

But the value ascribed to people who could hit those notes.