Paddy Johnson

And I think that in a lot of the narratives within the art world where,

You know, we tell ourselves like, well, we we don't make money or we're not a commercial artist or, you know, this this is in a field where you should ever expect to make a living wage.

One of the things that it does is it sort of keeps us in our place.

And, you know, when you start to experience what it's like to get paid for your work, that's when you can actually start moving from the place where you're treading water into, you know, I don't know where one goes from treading water, but like higher land or I don't know, you can build from there.

That is really great to hear.

So in terms of a timeline though, we've talked a little bit about what it's been like to join the membership, feeling a little bit of trepidation, joining the accountability groups,

and getting this purchase under your belt, like, what is a timeline like inside of network?

For you, anyway, what you decided to do and when?

Because I think a lot of people when they join, they kind of want to know what they should expect in terms of

how long it takes to do things.

And I'm sure it's different.

I know that it's different for every artist, but I'd love to hear for you what your particular timeline looks like.

And that turned out really well, didn't it?

And then- Oh, you know, I think the thing that was really exciting for me was, like I could tell that the strategy call helped, but then we did do some follow-up and you said you were super happy with the work that you made while you were there.

To me, that just seemed like the most ideal outcome that you got there and you were able to just like get in the zone, make this really great work and be happy about it.

Yeah, I feel like that's so important because it's really easy to, I think, in this particular world that we're in now to feel alone.

And I don't know about you, but personally, I don't always trust online spaces for that.

And so when you do find them, because that's what they have been designed for, particularly, you know, I think in the case of Nefer or were, you know, really an international group that, you know, it's it makes a difference.

So that was in the fall and now we're in the spring, winter, spring.

Yeah.