Paddy O’Connell

All of the broadcasters asked four or five questions.

It's not a long interview.

And, yeah, I think... Can we play a little bit of what he was saying?

The thing is, the problem they've got, well, they've got lots of problems, but I think lots of newscasters will just think, Chris, we've just heard that all before.

You know, Keir Summer says we have to go further and faster.

We have to accelerate the change.

We have to give people more hope.

Those are all undefinable things.

They're all political speak.

Put them all together in any order.

And it's a sort of word salad that sort of says, well, yeah, I know things haven't been great and I promise I'm going to try harder.

And not only that, Laura, it's certainly from what I'm hearing from Labour MPs, just a frustration that even the language is the same.

So not only is there the critique of what does it actually add up to and therefore what difference could it conceivably make, but it is exactly the same.

So his language about, we didn't hear it there, but earlier on he talked about in his opening answer, because this is the first time he'd been in front of the camera since the full scale of the results were out there.

Yes, he did do an equivalent clip.

early yesterday morning but we were still early on weren't we it was before Scotland it was before Wales etc etc even if the the kind of trend was was there to to be seen it was exactly the same form of words as he'd used 24 hours previously so there wasn't even any kind of sense of of using different language given the volume of what had come in the 24 hours since he's now talking up

a speech he's going to give on Monday.

It's been pretty widely trailed, quite a bit of that, this idea.

In fact, he said it in that interview he did with Nick Robinson on the Today programme this time last week about wanting a closer relationship with the European Union.

There's a limit to how far that can go within the red lines that they've set in their manifesto.