Paddy O’Connell

Three little boys who'd come that morning to see what had happened and they were curious in their community.

There were police milling around, there were politicians turning up.

Kemi Bidnock turned up, Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester, turned up.

And I was talking to these three little boys and they were all telling me that every day on their way to school, they got shouted at.

Another young Jewish father.

came and told me about how when he'd taken his kids to the park on several occasions, people had sort of swarmed around the family and been shouting slogans at them.

So he'd taken his kids home from the park.

So that, you know, Judith, you talk about that ambient anti-Semitism, but that is everyday experiences for people trying to just live normal lives for children, for families.

This is not just about leaders or buildings or religious leaders.

These are British people in this country who are living with regular abuse.

Some of it

dangerous we see these real dangers on the streets now much of it unpleasant but that kind of background noise to Jewish life in the UK has become normalised in many ways and Paddy you this morning as you told us you were at a Jewish event in North London

Personally, I've never had anything anti-Semitic aimed directly at me.

But at the moment, it's pretty scary with everything so close.

But at school, everyone knows I'm Jewish and I don't receive anything negative coming towards me about that.

So I'm pretty happy about that.

But I mean, it is quite worrying.

And there are sadly, Judith, there are Jewish people who talk now about leaving the UK.

There are some Jewish people who have left the UK feeling that it can no longer be a safe place and can no longer be their home.

Just tell us about one of the people who you've interviewed who is going to leave the country.