Pam Stepnick

It was awful for a few years.

It was just so bad.

My best friend, cousin, Terry, we still saw each other, but it was very strained.

Because Greg was best friends with Rob and her husband.

My other cousins I didn't see for...

At least five years.

And so it was a horrible time.

And he constantly threatened me that he would kill my uncle.

I believed him.

Like that's dumb now.

Really dumb.

Sorry, Uncle Bill, you're deceased.

But, you know, maybe I should have said, oh, really?

You know, go ahead.

Like today I would have been like, mm-hmm.

But then I believed he would do it.

Did you connect with him before?

two things I did when I left Greg reconnected with that part of the family that was February 22nd it was my cousin's birthday 2002 and I knew I was leaving Greg we were already going through I was moving out in March and stuff like that and I called my uncle's house still remembered their phone number and I said hey it's Pam can I come over

They're like, yes, get over here right now.

Everybody's here.