Pam Stepnick

Jake thinks it did too.

Where Jake just is so emotional, he just keeps it buried and then it comes out.

you see it maybe in his relationships where, you know, that it's scary.

Like maybe this could happen to me because Greg would tell them, like a woman will always just leave you and she could do that.

Like really, really difficult stuff.

When I say torture, I mean verbal torture.

And I believe that

Like you said, Shawna, that kids hear it over and over and over, and I didn't say a word.

I never said anything to Jake and Logan in those young, formative years.

What was I going to say?

I knew it wasn't right to do that.

It's psychological warfare.

No, I meant Greg would be the main character.

I mean, we still laugh.

My husband David sits back and laughs at what Greg says because he can be hilarious, right?

Yeah, he's polarizing.

To this day...

I don't think Greg has said one word to David.

And we spent holiday, HBO filming, three or four holidays now that Esme's around.

Bless her little heart.