Pam Stepnick

There is no parent who's lived through what we lived through.

We were running through flames with no fire extinguisher, no fire gear, and they got burned.

And today, there's so many things that could help you through that, including my book, as parents and creators and anyone on the internet to learn how to navigate it.

Mental health is key.

Faith, key.

I also talk about manifestation.

I talk about resilience, passion, you know, how Jake and Logan got where they are.

Again, it's a tribute to their passion and their resilience and their hard work.

So I survived through my faith.

I don't, if I didn't have a strong, and I had to develop that, George, because remember, I wasn't really, I didn't tap into that until I

went to church the minute I left the house.

I did go to church here and there, but I had to tap into it and grow.

And when I say I got signs, I don't mean I said, I did this with Greg, but calling me, but I would ask for something from God and it would happen.

Like I would get on my knees and ask and it would happen.

That's the sign I was talking about back before.

I think it's still ongoing.

Like I was raised Catholic, you know, baptized, confirmation, communion.

I went to church when I was in high school.

I'd go before gymnastics meets with my friend.

And I felt it then.