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Panos Panay

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

And I go, well, which one? And it won't work. All you'll do is talk and it'll be super verbose and it'll sound like you're talking to the internet. It's just not that. It doesn't work. And then everything else breaks. Which is the hardest thing. I don't think anyone else is doing what we're doing. We've got thousands of APIs now that we're able to call.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

And I go, well, which one? And it won't work. All you'll do is talk and it'll be super verbose and it'll sound like you're talking to the internet. It's just not that. It doesn't work. And then everything else breaks. Which is the hardest thing. I don't think anyone else is doing what we're doing. We've got thousands of APIs now that we're able to call.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

And I go, well, which one? And it won't work. All you'll do is talk and it'll be super verbose and it'll sound like you're talking to the internet. It's just not that. It doesn't work. And then everything else breaks. Which is the hardest thing. I don't think anyone else is doing what we're doing. We've got thousands of APIs now that we're able to call.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

You're able to get these, if you will, experts or agents, whatever you want to call them. It's not a real word. It's just being able to talk to each other at the right time. The invocation is like there's something invoked. And now the LLM at the bottom is arbitrating like, oh, what's she trying to do? What's he trying to do? Got it. Route it to the right model. Route it to the right expert.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

You're able to get these, if you will, experts or agents, whatever you want to call them. It's not a real word. It's just being able to talk to each other at the right time. The invocation is like there's something invoked. And now the LLM at the bottom is arbitrating like, oh, what's she trying to do? What's he trying to do? Got it. Route it to the right model. Route it to the right expert.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

You're able to get these, if you will, experts or agents, whatever you want to call them. It's not a real word. It's just being able to talk to each other at the right time. The invocation is like there's something invoked. And now the LLM at the bottom is arbitrating like, oh, what's she trying to do? What's he trying to do? Got it. Route it to the right model. Route it to the right expert.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Got it. This expert needs to talk to that expert. Give you an example if you want it. There's nothing simple about it. It's why you haven't seen it. It's why it doesn't exist outside of videos. So the biggest thing I needed was to not do a demo, but to use the product live. Meaning you can code a demo just to be a demo. Like, you know, it's code. Like for that moment, make it look like.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Got it. This expert needs to talk to that expert. Give you an example if you want it. There's nothing simple about it. It's why you haven't seen it. It's why it doesn't exist outside of videos. So the biggest thing I needed was to not do a demo, but to use the product live. Meaning you can code a demo just to be a demo. Like, you know, it's code. Like for that moment, make it look like.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Got it. This expert needs to talk to that expert. Give you an example if you want it. There's nothing simple about it. It's why you haven't seen it. It's why it doesn't exist outside of videos. So the biggest thing I needed was to not do a demo, but to use the product live. Meaning you can code a demo just to be a demo. Like, you know, it's code. Like for that moment, make it look like.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

type of quotes, but the principle was very, very clear. And this hasn't changed at Amazon, to be clear. The team's all in, like, we are gonna show the product. And that's what you saw.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

type of quotes, but the principle was very, very clear. And this hasn't changed at Amazon, to be clear. The team's all in, like, we are gonna show the product. And that's what you saw.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

type of quotes, but the principle was very, very clear. And this hasn't changed at Amazon, to be clear. The team's all in, like, we are gonna show the product. And that's what you saw.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Yeah, I think we do. Is that competitive? I think it is. I think it's hugely competitive. It's pretty easy to invoke a single API off an LL. I mean, not easy. I don't want to discount anything. But let's say the expert is a grounding expert. I'm going to ground a local info. We're in New York. I know everything about New York. I'm going to make sure this conversation stays within New York.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Yeah, I think we do. Is that competitive? I think it is. I think it's hugely competitive. It's pretty easy to invoke a single API off an LL. I mean, not easy. I don't want to discount anything. But let's say the expert is a grounding expert. I'm going to ground a local info. We're in New York. I know everything about New York. I'm going to make sure this conversation stays within New York.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

Yeah, I think we do. Is that competitive? I think it is. I think it's hugely competitive. It's pretty easy to invoke a single API off an LL. I mean, not easy. I don't want to discount anything. But let's say the expert is a grounding expert. I'm going to ground a local info. We're in New York. I know everything about New York. I'm going to make sure this conversation stays within New York.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

calling one API, make sure you're grounded.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

calling one API, make sure you're grounded.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

calling one API, make sure you're grounded.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

It's just my term.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa’s AI overhaul

It's just my term.