Paola Ramos

And it did.

It worked very, very well.

Because beyond the religious aspects, what that language does, which is the same thing that anti-immigrant language does, which is the same thing that fear mongering does,

it essentially inspires a sense of disgust, right?

And the disgust is at the heart of what allows a human to dehumanize the other, right?

Like if I find you disgusting, like I'm not gonna see you as a human.

And that's what the transphobic messaging does very well among us.

And the anti-immigrant message is the same thing.

But it's all to me and that's why like,

When I write these books or when I try and make sense of the things, I talk to scientists and psychologists because it's not politics.

It's the feeling.

It's all about this visceral feeling.

Well, yes, but also if you take a step back and you look at who Latinos are today versus who they were, say, when my dad was starting his career in the United States, we've changed so much.

The majority of Latinos right now, the majority are U.S.

born.

The majority speak English, not Spanish.

It's third generation Latinas that are the fastest growing segment among us.

And so what that means is that we are so much more Americanized and assimilated than when people think.

There was a story 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, that really centered our solidarity among this immigrant story, because it was closer to us.

And it made sense that we were a community, we were a tribe, but that kind of is disappearing.