Stephen Miller Cracking Under Pressure As His Evil Plan Blows Up In His Face

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What historical context is provided for the Latino voter experience?

Jennifer Welch 0:00
Every time there's an election, caravans, migrants, all these criminals are coming across the border.
Paola Ramos 0:07
The trans migrants. That one's the best. They're going to eat you. Yeah, yeah.
Jennifer Welch 0:15
right paula ramos is an emmy award-winning journalist contributor for ms now telemundo and author of defectors the rise of the latino far right and what it means for america she also hosts a podcast with her dad jorge ramos called the moment and she joins us today on ihip news paula Did I say it right?
Paola Ramos 0:38
You got it right, actually, yes.
Jennifer Welch 0:40
Oh, good, good, good. That's one of my favorite because where I come from, it's Paula.
Paola Ramos 0:43
I know. Look, they call me Paola, Paula, all sorts of things. So you did very well.
Jennifer Welch 0:49
Okay, great. I think what we have to... And we don't cover this that much, but... there are segments of the united states where we have people that are here and they're not going anywhere we have an arab muslim population we also have this fabulous growing multicultural latino population that i love that i think is just such an asset to america and this voting bloc is not a monolith no and everybody's jockeying for their vote everybody's trying to understand so trump got 46 percent of latino voters in the 2024 election what do you think and he's one latino man he won that vote what do you think they see in him
Paola Ramos 1:34
I mean, so right before the election, right before November 2024, when they asked most Latino voters, do you think that Donald Trump is talking about you when he's insulting immigrants? Like, do you think he is criminalizing you? The majority of Latino voters said no. The majority of Latino voters did not make the connection between Trump's words and them. And so I think now, fast forward to where we are, I think a lot of people are coming to terms with this idea that regardless of how many generations you've been in this country, and regardless of how American you feel, In Trump's America, you don't belong. Now, that doesn't mean that that's a vote for Democrats at all, which I think that's where Democrats get it wrong.
Paola Ramos 2:18
But what it does mean is that that 48% saw something in Trump. And I think, I mean, we can get into the what it is, but I think what I always remind myself is that to be Latina or an immigrant does not make you immune to anti-immigrant rhetoric. It does not make you immune to anti-Blackness. It does not make you immune to transphobia, which was also a big issue. And the painful journey of assimilating in this country and wanting to belong so badly in the in-group, that's something that we go through a lot in our own home countries. Because I think in Trump, they saw power and they saw an entry point into whiteness. They saw themselves as part of a group because they didn't want to be cast with those other bad immigrants.
Paola Ramos 3:05
They wanted to prove to this Trump world that they were not those bad guys. So there's
Jennifer Welch 3:09
it's to me it goes beyond politics there's a lot of psychology there yeah pain okay so let me ask you this now we have we're going to have a generation of people just from these close to 18 months that where children's memories are going to be hiding They're going to have a memory of their parents sitting them down and saying, you can't go to school today. Or they're going to have a memory of coming home from school and a parent is gone. And we're going to have, we have victims of bigotry in the life. legalized systemic targeting. It's called the Kavanaugh rule. Judge Kavanaugh, he doesn't like his name associated with that, which is why I like to bring it up every chance I can get. That you can pull somebody over who looks or sounds Latino.
Jennifer Welch 4:00
So after that, after this group has fallen prey to the horrors of systemic targeted racism,
Paola Ramos 4:12
where do you think this leaves latino voters and again i know they're not a monolith but this is really targeted racism i think there's there's like three different scenarios that i see number one i think maybe you can see a similar story to what we saw in arizona under joe arpaio i remember those days of like sb 1070 right where you had this entire generation of latinos that grew up

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