Pat (guest/co-host)

Absolutely.

It doesn't make sense that the president would have more authority now, but he throws everything at the wall to see what sticks.

And sometimes these courts move rather slowly.

And so he figures, OK, if I do 10 authoritarian actions, maybe eight of them will get overturned.

But two of the things I'll get my way on.

And he knows that he has a whole bunch of allies in the courts with this judge saying, no, you can't do this.

It doesn't mean that the next judge or judges that they appeal to in an appeals court won't reverse the decision.

So they know that it's politically advantageous for them to at least try.

There's not going to be a whole bunch of blowback if it fails.

And what I love about this story, too, is that there's a layer of incompetence added on to it.

The Trump administration wanted to fire just 982 staffers at the Department of Health and Human Services, but they actually sent out notices to 1760 employees.

So nearly twice as many employees as were supposed to get fired.

And of course, they had to issue corrections later on.

How stressful would that be if you think that you're one of these workers who's going to get laid off and then fired?

An email sent your way saying, oh, just kidding.

Your your friend, your coworker, they're getting fired, but not you, actually.

And then the courts reversed the decision late days later.

It's just crazy.

Yeah, that's absolutely right.

I mean, I could see how there would be a whole bunch of people at the beginning of Trump's term that would be excited about it because he was able to rally the base around this immigration issue.