Pat (guest/co-host)

But as time has gone on, we know that this issue has not been so favorable for Trump.

And we see a lot of these ICE officers, agents trying to hide their faces.

So that suggests that not a whole bunch of people want to become ICE officers at this point because they know the type of blowback they're going to get.

I've seen these ICE commercials, these ICE recruitment videos, and they talk about how as an ICE official, you're going to go after the worst of the worst.

You're going to go after murderers and child traffickers.

But we know just from watching the news, no, you're just going to go after everyday people who are trying to live their lives, who are abiding by the law.

And the idea is that they can trick people by saying you're going to go after the worst harding criminals.

But really, you're just going after day laborers and people who don't deserve to be

thrown in these vans and shipped off to whoever knows where.

Right.

And is that really the type of career that you want long term?

Do you think that this is going to be something that works for you, especially because this is a pet issue right now for Trump, the people in power?

But is this going to last a while?

Probably not.

So I could see some people being interested, inspired to join this ICE mafia, if we want to call it that.

But I think plenty of people are going to be opposed to it at this point.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, if you're living paycheck to paycheck or even if you have like a sound financial situation to go without those paychecks, to have to continue working, to not be guaranteed back pay, it's assumed that they'll get back pay, but they don't know that for sure.

It's a very stressful situation.

And it's one reason why we shouldn't have these government shutdowns, because it's not the politicians who are really paying the price for them.