Pat Kenny

This has good provenance.

But the move would also see the council vacate its long-standing base at Wood Quay.

And while it's being framed as a cost-effective alternative to a near 500 million retrofit of existing offices, it comes against a backdrop of serious questions around spending, governance and delivery, from stalled developments and problematic new bills to admissions that some past acquisitions should never have been purchased.

Richard Shakespeare, good morning and welcome.

He's allowed to be gay, but not to consummate.

Good morning, Pat.

Thanks for having me in.

Now, we talked a couple of weeks ago about the bunkers at Wood Quay and the history of them and how they were hard fought against by various people, including Father Martin, the late Father Martin, who fought long and hard and ended up being awarded for his trouble even as the bunkers were built.

And that report back in the day, 40 years ago from BBC Newsnight.

Well, that accident ruined lives when it happened and continued its destruction in the days, the months and the years that followed.

However, there was one beacon of hope.

A young Irish woman was determined that the children suffering from the devastating consequences of radiation would be given a chance to live a life as normal as possible, even for five or six weeks a year.

The Chernobyl Children's International Charity was created and summers in Ireland became a welcome respite from the horrors.

Host families sometimes became permanent families as holidays turned into adoptions.

Okay, now let's talk about it.

And it was, I suppose, a little piece of joy coming from a very dark place.

It would have cost, the estimate, maybe 500 million.

And I heard, by the way, when I was in RT a couple of weeks ago for the Late Late Show, they told me that the studio building, the cost of refurbing that would be 400 million.

And I'm delighted to say that 40 years later, the same young Irish woman, she's laughing, is sitting opposite me now.

Aidy Roach, good morning and welcome.