Pat Kenny

Some lighter stories.

There's a particular refugee who's been 22 years in Kerry.

Yeah, and if you think it may be 22 years to be in captivity and then to be released, I heard N. Inley Lana during the week on the station here talking about a shark, which is 150 years old, but it's only a juvenile.

Will live perhaps to be 500 and doesn't become sexually mature until it's 180 years old.

Other stories, Robert Watt may be in line for another big paying job.

Anyway, the other postscript to all of that is, you know, the person who takes his place is not being paid as much.

And how would you feel if you were that successor?

Am I not worth it?

Am I not worth it?

The Pat Kenny Show on Newstalk.

Well, I have been reading Dirty Dancing, subtitled The Inside Story of the Irish Dancing Cheating Scandal.

And the woman who is reviewing the papers with me, Ellen Coyne, is the author of this brand new book.

Ellen, let's talk about your connection with Irish dancing.

Were you a dancer?

How did you come across then the carry on in Irish dancing?

Yeah, your journalistic antennae were quivering.

OK, now talk to me about the different elements.

I mean, the idea that no matter how great a dancer you were, that if you weren't trained by the right people, that you had no chance of ever winning.

I mean, it's often like that in, for example, Olympic dancing, ice dancing and stuff like that.

And you might prefer X and I might prefer Y. And the judges in their wisdom decide that neither gets it but a third party.