Pat Kenny

Billy Han, good morning and welcome.

I've listed your headaches there.

Lions puts the talk into tea.

What's emerging is not just a story of conflict, but of a system struggling to cope with the scale and complexity of enormous human need.

Quite a lot to get through, for sure.

Yeah, let's talk about antisocial behaviour, first of all, because if you're on a bus and there's messing going on, it can be very uncomfortable.

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Sally Hayden, award-winning journalist with the Irish Times, is on the line from Lebanon.

Now, what's the connection between the fuel protests and young people emigrating to Melbourne?

It can, for sure.

Sally, good morning.

My next guest is an Irish business economist, formerly of the Harvard Business School, who posted her theory online.

Now, Sally, to put this in context, 1.1 million people at least have been displaced in a population of 5.8 million.

And it was soon being discussed widely, among the people talking about it, Steve Bannon on his podcast.

That's like saying the population of Dublin City has been displaced in Ireland.

And she's going to tell us all about it.

Will you welcome to the program Sinead O'Sullivan.

So that gives you a sense of the scale of the problem.

Sinead, good morning.

Good morning.