Pat Lorden

I mean, the proof is in the putting in the courts with the amount of convictions for financial crime, I think, and all the other crimes over the last four or five years.

But yes, they're always moving.

The organised crime groups that are sending you the scam calls, the scam texts and all the investment frauds, all of them are organised at a global level.

They're not just in Ireland.

So they will always pick the jurisdiction that's the weakest, that doesn't fight back.

So we need to fight back and push them back.