Pat Lorden

So if the money is not frozen and seized by the court and given to the state, the Criminal Assets Bureau can have a second bite at the cherry.

So yes, the laws are brilliant in this area.

The laws are excellent.

The laws are very, very good.

The Criminal Assets Bureau is very, very strong.

The anti-money laundering laws are very strong.

It's just sometimes we don't have the resources as a country

to drive on and take on these people as quickly as we should be.

Well, I think it would be brilliant if the resources that were recovered by the Drugs and Organised Crime Bureau and Economic Crime and all the other national bureaus, it was put back into the investigation of human trafficking.

That would be a brilliant system.

I know it's done in other countries.

For example, I was in a jurisdiction recently and their brand new building was purchased with assets from

money they had seized in an economic crime investigation.

So I like your proposal there, David, and maybe it's a step the minister will take in the near future.

I won't say they're always a step or two ahead because we're catching a lot of them.

Absolutely fantastic success there over the last number of years, which are drugs and organized crime, seizing assets, seizing finances.

Historically, we only went after the drugs or we went after the people.

But over the last seven or eight years, Ireland Inc.

has been going after the assets.

And I think we're catching up with them.