Patrick Bury

And then, as you said, the unmanned ground vehicle element is tying into that, especially in terms of holding defensive positions.

There's

There have been reports of like one automated heavy machine gun holding a position for over a month, you know.

And, of course, then similarly, these vehicles being used to attack certain positions.

But what I would say is the front line, as we know, it doesn't really exist.

You know, it's not like the First World War.

You're talking about small numbers of troops hiding in bunkers with beads being told what's going on around them by the drones.

And then if they have to come out of their positions only at the last minute, do they do so?

So what does that mean in terms of Russia's numerical advantage in terms of the kind of troops they can draw upon, even if those troops go to the front line reluctantly?

Are they no longer necessary?

Well, what you're seeing is the Ukrainians have decided that killing what the Russians have a lot of isn't really their center of gravity, what we call the thing with which you attack to stop them being able to continue operations.

Actually, much more vital is the logistics and the drone operators.

So by destroying those and the command and control nodes using the drones, they're slowing down their ability to be able to even launch attacks.

What we're seeing is the quality and the desire of norm, the quality of the troops and the desire of people to serve in Russia now is decreasing.

There's a recent video of a parade of about a company's worth, so 100 Russian, and they're all just so old, Pat.

It's really interesting to see, you know.

And obviously drawn from the much more poorer areas of Russia and sort of pushed out the door by their a lot of the time by their women who are like, well, I want a new fridge, for example, so you can go and fight and potentially die for that.

Now, the question of the drone technology and how it has advanced very quickly in Ukraine, I'm reading that one of the drone systems they have can penetrate as far as 1,750 kilometers, which gets it well into Russia.

Yeah, well, when we're talking about drones, obviously you've got the sort of smaller loitering ones which provide constant ISRs, so intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, maybe...

other ones which have light warheads on, which are then used for targeting, etc.