Patrick Campbell

Right.

And so like, I think that's the thing that like finding your tribe and being a bit patient and then being like easy on yourself when like stuff messes up and just being really communicative and confrontational, like not in a volatile way, but just confrontational, I think is really important because these hard conversations are the ones that you put off and these hard conversations, like,

if you're putting them off, these problems only get bigger.

They only become higher stakes, right?

Getting equity from these guys later in the business is so much harder than if we just fix it in the beginning, just from a physics perspective.

That's the thing I like about Nathan.

He's really good at basic math and this stuff.

This is how he trips up founders and telling secrets.

That's how it is.

What was that number?

Oh, and that number I asked you about 30 minutes ago.

I'm going to multiply these now.

I love it.

So you're gonna be like, Oh my God.

European company as well.

Like UK, Europe didn't have the cash.

Raising back to normal.

He's doing it.

He's doing his Laka thing.

You know, we love you.