Patrick Campbell

Right.

Like we wanted this like product that could like, you know, be more pure software.

And so that was the original idea, um, was kind of like, what if new relic was for revenue?

Like what would new relic look like for revenue, like revenue monitoring.

Right.

Um, and then we were helping a company I was about to IPO with their pricing and we discovered that they were calculating churn and MRR incorrectly.

So we kind of started on this, like, cool, let's do this financial metrics product.

And we got out there.

Um, we had like 10 people on it.

Um,

What year was this, Patrick?

This was 2013, late 2013, early 2014.

And all of a sudden, what ended up happening is we were about to announce it to our really weak email list.

Then all of a sudden, Josh Pigford, Bear Metrics got out there and got the Hacker News crowd, the MicroConf crowd.

Everyone was loving it because it's a good idea.

And Chartmoga was kind of

building in parallel as well.

And there were like 30 different products in the market within six to 12 months.

And so we were building this thing very slowly.

And then all of a sudden it was like, what should we do?