Patrick Campbell

if your tax gets messed up, we go to jail.

You don't go to jail.

We go to jail because we're the ones that are actually paying those actual taxes.

We handle payment orchestration in the sense of, oh, it looks like checkout.com is a better backend.

That's what we're going to process the payment through versus Stripe versus where these other things are.

And then currencies, all this other stuff out of the box.

And so that's the thing that I'm working on in terms of pricing is how do we best contextualize it so that when you look at that 5%, you're not like,

Comparing it to, well, if I spin this up myself, I only pay 2.9%.

For actually what we're doing, it's relatively inexpensive for all the back office stuff that we're doing for you, essentially.

And so, yeah, it's definitely a project I'm working on.

Uh, not really.

I, I didn't have my parents, like to my dad, the idea of starting a business is like a little bit like blasphemy.

Like he's not a Luddite or anything like that, but he's, um, big union guy out of the Midwest.

Like we grew up pretty poor, like got laid off, like, you know, a lot because not because he was like, he's incredibly hard worker, incredibly smart, but like, you know, it's hard being like a skilled trades person, like, you know,

20 years ago.

Now there's such a shortage.

You have electricians making 120 a year, not working more than 40 hours a week.

It wasn't like that 20, 30 years ago.

And so I think my dad, it was always like, oh, you should go be a doctor.

You should go be a lawyer.