Patrick Campbell

it's almost like there's no advantage to sharing.

So your logic is found, you're in the ballpark, but I'm not going to say if you're higher or lower, but you're in the general ballpark, if that makes sense.

But it is one of those interesting things.

Now I'm at a venture-backed unicorn and it's one of these things where I'm always like,

Huh.

Like we don't share these things publicly and I'm not really sure why, but I think it's also because of like, you know, you're just reserve your optionality, you know, going forward with future.

I was all Christian.

That was, that was all.

It was all diverse.

Maybe Christian, you should take it then.

What, what, what, what made you move?

We had no, we had no intention of selling, honestly.

We were going to raise, going to raise money.

And then Christian was like, what if we buy you?

And I was like, what?

I didn't know that was an option.

It's almost like you're bootstrapping.

You're like, go, go, go, go, grow, grow, grow, grow.

You're like an operator.

And then you're like, oh, I didn't even... You're not thinking of an exit a lot of times.