Patrick Carey

And he really beautifully illustrates the way that these collective demonstrations both sort of represent how people feel about their government, but also don't fully capture the nuances of every individual's opinion on what's going on.

You know, there's a cab driver that doesn't think that there's any point to protest because no one's going to listen anyway.

And then there's the idealistic student who's,

so excited to even be walking on the street because it's the first time she's been able to protest like that.

So he really, for a book that focuses a lot on inward, could be accused of being navel-gazy, he manages to give you a broad sort of societal view of the experience of the main character.

Oh, look, it did.

I mean, I think it's so... I mean, even just that little clip that you played of him speaking gives you a taste of his... this ability that he has to sort of stitch...

kind of transcendent language into talking about quite mundane and sometimes risque topics.

He just speaks so beautifully.

He writes so beautifully about everything.

I felt moved pretty consistently throughout the book.

Yeah, I think he's amazing.

Yeah, come on then.

Well, I'm impressed by anyone that's happy to downgrade Cormac McCarthy to second best when it comes to writing Westerners.

No, which makes me really want to read the book.

Oh, absolutely.

No, I agree.

So I'm excited to read that.

I'm definitely going to take that recommendation on.

But I read something wonderful over the summer which I am ashamed to have not known about earlier because it's an Australian novel.