Patrick Collins

Because if anything happened to them, are they happy enough to look in the mirror at night time and say, well, if I go to bed tonight now and I die suddenly of a heart attack or something like that, and I meet my maker and I meet God, then I'm happy enough to stand there and say, yeah, I kept the secret when he puts it to you.

What did you do about Sandra Collins?

Well, I kept it for whatever, and I'm happy that I did that.

And if you're not happy to do that, if you're not comfortable to meet your maker, to let him decide what he's going to do, how he's going to dish out his own punishment, Nicola, because the Irish justice system is one side of it.

He has a whole totally different justice system where there are no barristers, there are no judges and he makes the final call.

And on that, on whenever our day will be,

I'll be able to go to my one knowing that I don't have this terrible secret.

And I just hope and pray for your sake that if you decide to carry it with you,

I hope he's lenient because I couldn't imagine how he'd feel the judgment of putting a family through this horror and this hell.

For so long.

And him listening to us begging and pleading.

And not just us, I just want to say that, not just us.

Like if prayers could have brought Sandra home, the amount of people that have prayed and lit candles is phenomenal, you know, just incredible.

Say she could burn down churches with the amount of candles that have lit for her.

You know, and she was religious enough herself, like I said, she used to clean the church and she had her church, you know, on one of the door to doors we did in the last five, six years, we met what he called her church buddy who used to sit with her at mass to keep the safe for each other.

And he keep it for her and she keep it for him.

And I was like, oh, right.

Okay.

It doesn't really matter where he's at.

But they were friends and it was lovely that she had that, you know?