Patrick Freyne

And every now and again, they get airplay.

You're kind of going, I listen sometimes late at night to RT and someone plays an old NPB song and I'm like, oh, it's still out there.

Yeah.

But it did feel towards my, and it's so funny as well, in the music industry, you're made feel old very young.

You know, I remember I did a composition class with Doneca Denny, a classical composer, who said, in classical music, you're still a young composer in your 40s.

And in like rock and roll, I remember everyone being amazed that Jarvis Cocker was 32.

Because how old?

Like that's geriatric in music.

So by the time I was 28 or 29, it did feel like we were kind of getting over the hill and we'd kind of...

and that I needed to find a stable source of income.

An adult thing, yeah.

It's a young man's game, the music industry, yeah.

So your next song choice gave you the title for the novel.

The novel is called Experts in a Dying Field.

And it is in one way about the music scene in Dublin, but like so much more too.

I can't kind of... Which is a good thing.

I couldn't pinpoint...

You know, what type of book is this?

There's grief and kind of disappointed lives.

Then there's fantastical elements as well.