Patrick Freyne

There was a really nice DIY post-punk kind of scene.

There was these weird little labels around the city, like Dead Elvis and the Hope Collective, and they used to put out records themselves.

And, you know, when we started putting...

Towards the end of college, myself and Dara and our friend Paul and a few other people put a band together and a label together and just started putting out music.

So it was your own label as well, yeah?

Yeah, because part of that DIY ethos, which I really think is good for people, is you don't wait around for someone to give you permission to do stuff.

You just start putting things out, for better or worse.

So we never did demos or anything.

We just put out what other bands would have called their demos.

You know, you'd find, and there was a little community of bands that we'd have been friendly with.

Just for people to remember, your band was the National Prayer Breakfast.

Yeah, the NPV was, because when we, we called it the National Prayer Breakfast, which is a phenomena in America where the president has a prayer breakfast, but then you'd ring up people and you'd go to the National Prayer Breakfast and they couldn't understand what you were saying.

They'd go, the Nashville Perverts, what?

So we'd

we shortened it to the NPV after all purely for that reason and you know we got we did a lot of gigs around Dublin and we toured how long did that last nearly a decade like nine years like we put out three

three records ourselves we put out some stuff for other bands as well and then I started doing some other musical stuff and we put that out too it was like what was lovely is you'd be friends with these other bands and they'd go there's a great place in the Czech Republic to get vinyl done that's really cheap and then you'd send your stuff to the Czech Republic and it would come back and

There was a little network where you'd kind of... Someone would tell you there's a place in Brighton you should play if you were touring the UK.

And you'd be doing everything on an absolute shoestring.

And look, the book is kind of germane to this, but we'll come to the book.

But like, was that the best 10 years of your life?