Patrick Gaspard

So we're going to we're going to find out some things. The question is, how do we litigate it? How do we narrate it in a way that folks can be repulsed by it and act? accordingly. So it is a very, very real thing. And these are, you know, we're living in a moment of state capture, which I just didn't think that I'd ever be saying about the United States of America.

So we're going to we're going to find out some things. The question is, how do we litigate it? How do we narrate it in a way that folks can be repulsed by it and act? accordingly. So it is a very, very real thing. And these are, you know, we're living in a moment of state capture, which I just didn't think that I'd ever be saying about the United States of America.

So we're going to we're going to find out some things. The question is, how do we litigate it? How do we narrate it in a way that folks can be repulsed by it and act? accordingly. So it is a very, very real thing. And these are, you know, we're living in a moment of state capture, which I just didn't think that I'd ever be saying about the United States of America.

Tim, so I'd say this, the thing that is the most alarming to me is the thing that's also the most encouraging. Strange thing to say. But the level of state capture, how oligarchy is working in this moment, the fact that we have an

Tim, so I'd say this, the thing that is the most alarming to me is the thing that's also the most encouraging. Strange thing to say. But the level of state capture, how oligarchy is working in this moment, the fact that we have an

Tim, so I'd say this, the thing that is the most alarming to me is the thing that's also the most encouraging. Strange thing to say. But the level of state capture, how oligarchy is working in this moment, the fact that we have an

unelected individual who also happens to be the wealthiest person on earth, who also happens to have built his wealth along the spine of government investments from the Pentagon, from the Department of Energy, etc., That person is now determining budgetary outcomes for the very same departments that contract with him. It's astonishing.

unelected individual who also happens to be the wealthiest person on earth, who also happens to have built his wealth along the spine of government investments from the Pentagon, from the Department of Energy, etc., That person is now determining budgetary outcomes for the very same departments that contract with him. It's astonishing.

unelected individual who also happens to be the wealthiest person on earth, who also happens to have built his wealth along the spine of government investments from the Pentagon, from the Department of Energy, etc., That person is now determining budgetary outcomes for the very same departments that contract with him. It's astonishing.

And that individual gets to pick winners or losers in the EV sector that, again, he personally benefits from. The fact that this is happening in broad daylight, and the fact that this individual, Elon Musk, is allowed to just kind of hold forth in cabinet meetings and in the Oval Office in a way that

And that individual gets to pick winners or losers in the EV sector that, again, he personally benefits from. The fact that this is happening in broad daylight, and the fact that this individual, Elon Musk, is allowed to just kind of hold forth in cabinet meetings and in the Oval Office in a way that

And that individual gets to pick winners or losers in the EV sector that, again, he personally benefits from. The fact that this is happening in broad daylight, and the fact that this individual, Elon Musk, is allowed to just kind of hold forth in cabinet meetings and in the Oval Office in a way that

Again, it's not pushed into, it's not interrogated from mainstream Republican leadership is, I think, the most astonishing and the most shocking thing to me. I mean, the very first time that Donald Trump calls Zelensky in the Ukraine after he's elected Elon Musk is in that conversation. He's part of that meeting.

Again, it's not pushed into, it's not interrogated from mainstream Republican leadership is, I think, the most astonishing and the most shocking thing to me. I mean, the very first time that Donald Trump calls Zelensky in the Ukraine after he's elected Elon Musk is in that conversation. He's part of that meeting.

Again, it's not pushed into, it's not interrogated from mainstream Republican leadership is, I think, the most astonishing and the most shocking thing to me. I mean, the very first time that Donald Trump calls Zelensky in the Ukraine after he's elected Elon Musk is in that conversation. He's part of that meeting.

Elon Musk, who provides Starlink resources to the Ukraine military, is making governing calls about this stuff. So the extent of state capture and the kind of naked transparency of it and the fact that it is not being...

Elon Musk, who provides Starlink resources to the Ukraine military, is making governing calls about this stuff. So the extent of state capture and the kind of naked transparency of it and the fact that it is not being...

Elon Musk, who provides Starlink resources to the Ukraine military, is making governing calls about this stuff. So the extent of state capture and the kind of naked transparency of it and the fact that it is not being...

interrogated, questioned in any way whatsoever from institutional Republicans, for me, is the most frightening, shocking thing that I worry has now become a new normal that doesn't get rolled back easily at all, irrespective of who's in office.

interrogated, questioned in any way whatsoever from institutional Republicans, for me, is the most frightening, shocking thing that I worry has now become a new normal that doesn't get rolled back easily at all, irrespective of who's in office.